Council leader wants ‘remain’ option on second referendum ballot paper

HOLBORN and St Pancras Sir Keir Starmer got a standing ovation in Liverpool after telling the conference hall that ‘nobody is ruling out remain’ as a possible option on a second referendum on Europe. Of course, some Labour figures had been doing just that throughout the week. Enthused by her local MP’s words, Camden Council leader Georgia Gould nevertheless explained why she thinks there is now ‘unity’ on the issue, in one of our conference films below. The need to add the clause ‘for me personally’ perhaps highlights the fact that not everybody is on the same page as her, however.

Meanwhile, the Lib Dems are bringing a motion to next week’s full council meeting calling for councillors to support a people’s vote with the option of remaining. It’s second on the list, right at the back of the agenda: will they reach the debate? It could be interesting if they do.

14 Comments on Council leader wants ‘remain’ option on second referendum ballot paper

  1. Remaining in the EU, as it is currently constituted, would probably make John McDonnell’s entire economic policy impossible to implement.

    Morever: the whole eastern part of the EU, plus most of Italy, plus very nearly France and Germany, are all moving on from the “Peter Mandelsonian” neocon, pro-privatisation Right to the out-and-out antisemitic, neofascist Right of Viktor Orbán. Matteo Salvini, and Marine Le Pen. (Whilst talking behind the scenes about setting up European Defence Force, which would include the French nuclear weapons).

    No thanks. That is the Europe that Tony Blair and his pals like Chukka Umunna and the right wing of the PLP are campaigning for (remember the People’s Princess? Now we have the People’s Referendum).


  2. alan watson. // October 1, 2018 at 10:38 am // Reply

    If we give you a vote and you do not vote the way we want you to we will make you vote again. Usual contempt for democracy from the arrogant and wealthy elite.


  3. Terence Flanagan // October 1, 2018 at 11:03 am // Reply

    Alan right as usual typical middle class pompous clowns !!


    • Bob Yeardley // October 8, 2018 at 2:34 pm // Reply

      It’s so strange how you shout your disgust at middle class people, yet you demand that we vote for Labour rather than middle class interests. You go on and on (and on!) about how Labour needs to be a working class party but have no answer to why this would encourage middle class people to vote for Labour.


  4. Fear of the hard left // October 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm // Reply

    If the outcome of an exit from the EU, showed likely to only hurt societies most vulnerable people, I doubt we’d have this fuss.
    Where were you all when me needed you to fight against austerity?
    Why did Labour Mps vote with the Tories on Austerity and welfare reform, helping create fertile grounds for an anti establishment vote?

    Arrogance to assume a second vote would produce desired outcome of remain camp.
    Can the people’s vote campaigners tell us if they were fighting this hard pre the referendum outcome?
    What shall be done about the sizeable chunk of Labour voters, who voted Brexit and would do so again?
    Simply tell them they are wrong?
    Some fail to recognise a sense of superiority from the right of party, doesn’t go down well with the electorate.
    Will that be a vote winner outside of London?


    • Bob Yeardley // October 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm // Reply

      Do you not campaign at the 2017 General Election campaign to tell voters that they voted the wrong way in 2015 and that they should change their minds?

      And what about the sizeable chunk of Labour MEMBERS that voted Remain and would do so again? Why is Jeremy so keen to respect members’ views on issues like agricultural reform in 19th Century Southern Mexico but couldn’t care less about Brexit?

      Lastly, what about the sense that the extreme left of the party are willing to throw communities under a bus and crash the economy and devastate communities so that they can regulate the media and nationalise the trains.


  5. Terence Flanagan // October 1, 2018 at 2:41 pm // Reply

    A referendum with a leave option LOSES the Labour Party the General Election, those of us who fought tooth and nail to prevent the UK joining the EU have been proved correct a bloody disaster ………………….everything was better before we got saddled with that BASTARD capitalist obscenity!!

    Better food
    Better workers rights PRE ENTRY CLOSED SHOP FFS
    Properly funded NHS

    A despicable betrayal of the vote being preached by pillocks many of whom were not even breathing before we got saddled with the effing EU FFS!!!!!!

    OUT MEANS OUT ………………………………..NOW !!!!


    • alan watson. // October 3, 2018 at 11:12 am // Reply

      Remember the Australian, Canadian, South African, Indian, West Indian and many others from the Commonwealth who played a major part in building up the NHS and this society after the devastation of war Terence?

      People who greatly helped in that war whilst unspeakable atrocities and genocide was practised in the countries of central and eastern Europe.

      Why have we turned our backs on them?


      • Bob Yeardley // October 8, 2018 at 2:44 pm // Reply

        Terrence has turned his back on the vital contribution of immigrants to this country because he’s a xenophobe. He probably still thinks pizza is “forrin muck” and “too spicy for my liking”. He’s a nativist in true Red-UKIP style. He doesn’t want to hear “forrin” on his streets and wants us all to go back to Dickens’ day when a man was a man and you didn’t need these “Human Rights”, you just got walloped in the face and then got on with it.


    • Bob Yeardley // October 8, 2018 at 2:43 pm // Reply

      Everything was better before UK joined EEC? What was your minimum wage before 1973? Obviously you had a cosy unionised job that meant you didn’t need such protections.
      You suggest that the NHS has been underfunded because of the EU? It’s almost as if you have no understanding of how funding works.
      Better food??? Are you joking? Spam with eggs doesn’t count as good food.


  6. Terence Flanagan // October 8, 2018 at 7:46 pm // Reply

    Argentinian beef fruit from anywhere on the planet employment rights from day one no prescription charges plenty of housing particularly in Camden minimum wage in the PRINT you having a laugh ?? holidays 6 weeks WOMEN ON EQUAL PAY anything else you want to know Bob ??

    Proper TU’s prepared to assist all OTHER workers in dispute with flying pickets many of whom of course were printers.



  7. Terence Flanagan // October 8, 2018 at 7:48 pm // Reply

    by the way Bob i think it was us micks who built the roads railways and many of the Unions !
    Particularly the Print Unions the bestsever seen


    • Bob Yeardley // October 9, 2018 at 9:32 am // Reply

      Ok Terry, literally no idea what you’re on about or what that’s got to do with my comment but thanks for joining in.
      What are micks? My parents were office cleaners and a mechanic (is that too bourgeois for you?) so didn’t use words like micks. I very much assume that it was labourers that built the railways and many of them were union members, I don’t remember disputing that.

      Would you care to engage with what I actually said in response to your claim that the 1970s were halcyon days when no-one needed trans-national regulations on climate emissions or a supra-national body to ensure that hard working micks (am I using that right?) could take their government to court to protect their rights? (Yes, the ECHR is separate from the EU but it’s the sort of supranational organisation that micks like Terry rail against)


  8. Terence Flanagan // October 9, 2018 at 2:14 pm // Reply

    I agree Alan remember i am from an immigrant community i have always supported immigrants and tried to unionise them very successfully in the Print and the GMB, Private Hire Drivers Couriers Chauffeurs any Professional Driver, by the way, many thousands.

    I founded the GMB Professional Drivers Branch and had National responsibilities recruiting members from all communities the length and breadth of Britain and we held meetings in many venues including several mosques. We held meetings with government ministers {Labour] the mayor of London Ken Livingstone and many other mayors councillors across the country ……………….i also negotiated a recognition agreement with the nations biggest Chauffeur company and led strikes walk outs in StAlbans Chelmsford and elsewhere

    .Be careful who you label xenophobic my record is one i am proud of and will defend vigorously!

    Try watching the new film about the Famine BLACK 47 and see what my family were suffering and why they came here absolutely appalling i am of Irish immigrant stock.

    Pre EU, Unions with full rights including the pre entry closed shop, equal pay for women? of course!! in the print! .. better diet indeed Argentinian beef for all fruit from around the world [no french crappy apples] much much better !

    The Left warned of the perils of the EU and we were of course proved right i campaigned against entry and as usual was proved correct.

    That capatalist cess pit the EU destroyed so much for the greed of the banks the people have voted ………………………………..OUT AND OUT NOW !


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